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专访NEJM:质疑“中国医生缺乏专业精神”作者

2015-04-27 任祖恩 健康界

新英格兰杂志作为医学界颇具权威的杂志,每发表一篇文章都牵动着学者们的心。近日美国NPR派出记者针对4月2日发表于新英格兰杂志上的文章"Lessons from the East - China's Rapidly Evolving Health Care System"的第一作者DR. DAVID BLUMENTHAL进行了采访,主要围绕世界能从中国医疗改革中得到怎样成功的医疗改革经验展开,内容如

新英格兰杂志作为医学界颇具权威的杂志,每发表一篇文章都牵动着学者们的心。

近日美国NPR派出记者针对4月2日发表于新英格兰杂志上的文章"Lessons from the East - China's Rapidly Evolving Health Care System"的第一作者DR. DAVID BLUMENTHAL进行了采访,主要围绕世界能从中国医疗改革中得到怎样成功的医疗改革经验展开,内容如下:

NPR:中国有那些成功的医疗工作值得其他国家学习呢?

DR. DAVID:他们已经开始拥有的社区医疗工作者,这一点是成功的。起初,中国人管他们叫赤脚医生,这些人并没有受过高标准的技术训练,但是他们接受了初级的预防护理和母婴保健的培训。赤脚医生们向乡村地区提供健康服务,并保证他们的基本健康需求,而且赤脚医生们真正的了解他们的患者,并跟他们成为朋友与邻居。

NPR:如您文章中所述,赤脚医生使中国的居民的健康有极大的提高,例如:在1952年到1982年之间,他们的全国婴儿出生死亡人数从200/1000R人次降低到34/1000人次。那么赤脚医生能否在发达国家起到同样的效果,例如美国?

DR. DAVID:社区医疗工作已经在发展中国家及发达国家得到了很大的实施,甚至这一项目已经不被认为具有创新性。在发达国家,社区医疗工作者如执业护理护士就能够向乡村初级的护理工作。

NPR:那么,患者对医疗服务提供者的不信任程度到底会有多大呢?

DR. DAVID:大概在10年前,我就开始听说有患者对医生进行人身攻击,甚至杀掉医生。这是由患者对医疗工作和对医生不信任所造成的暴乱结果。

NPR:在您发布于新英格拉的文章中,有提到中国医生缺乏医学专业精神的文化和历史背景。您想说明什么?

DR. DAVID:在中国,与对商人、微商和工业家的定义相比,他们对医疗行业专家的角色定义并不明确。在西方国家,我们倾向于认为,医生要信守专业标准与准则,这种标准是随自身永久存在的,包括持续学习、自我提高和不侵占病人财产等。医生、护士和其他健康服务提供者绝不会逾越这个标准,他们在医学院就已开始学习这些,并将这些标准实施在执业当中。但是在中国,这些标准与准则并没有机会成长起来,因为他们的社会经历的是儒家教化后,又信奉共产主义,再接着是资本主义,因此专业精神并没有机会在任何一个社会阶段得以发展。

NPR:那么,中国医疗系统即将面临什么样的障碍呢?

DR. DAVID:我确信,中国的医疗保障覆盖范围很广,但是他们并没有明白怎样创造一个真正的初级医疗系统。他们的初级医疗系统发展过程仅包括乡村医疗工作者(赤脚医生),然后就是医院的专家。这是使得好的医疗只能在大医院的专家那里。并且,中国是一个XXXXXXXXX的国家(此处打上马赛克),卫生主管部门就好比工厂,运行着一个以盈利为目的医疗产业,工厂成功地限制着整个系统改革,还鼓励市场承认他们的价值所在,这就好比火上浇油。

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    2016-01-28 saikp
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    2015-04-29 36.48.106.**

    也就外国人敢说实话

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    2015-04-27 hbwang006

    这样评论?

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  6. [GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=1703175, encodeId=de621e0317508, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=dba720e31b7' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#专访#</a>, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=60, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=20731, encryptionId=dba720e31b7, topicName=专访)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=070a30497323, createdName=flyingeagle87, createdTime=Thu Feb 04 13:44:00 CST 2016, time=2016-02-04, status=1, ipAttribution=), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=1735062, encodeId=952f1e35062f8, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=9aa5923e176' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#质疑#</a>, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=83, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=92371, encryptionId=9aa5923e176, topicName=质疑)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=2d3033872914, createdName=saikp, createdTime=Thu Jan 28 08:44:00 CST 2016, time=2016-01-28, status=1, ipAttribution=), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=22245, encodeId=74cf22245bf, content=也就外国人敢说实话, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=164, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=f0620, createdName=36.48.106.**, createdTime=Wed Apr 29 10:06:00 CST 2015, time=2015-04-29, status=1, ipAttribution=), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=1526862, encodeId=2df215268629f, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=894221e3566' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#中国医生#</a>, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=73, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=21735, encryptionId=894221e3566, topicName=中国医生)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=45f511780919, createdName=nakerunner, createdTime=Wed Apr 29 00:44:00 CST 2015, time=2015-04-29, status=1, ipAttribution=), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=22123, encodeId=cca8221237b, content=这样评论?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=150, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=f0620, createdName=hbwang006, createdTime=Mon Apr 27 14:06:00 CST 2015, time=2015-04-27, status=1, ipAttribution=), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=22108, encodeId=dd77221080d, content=不是医生想如此, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=144, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=/v1.0.0/img/user_icon.png, createdBy=9e0b1603164, createdName=lovejing, createdTime=Mon Apr 27 10:00:00 CST 2015, time=2015-04-27, status=1, ipAttribution=)]
    2015-04-27 lovejing

    不是医生想如此

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