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只知其一不知其二,居然还有PD-L2

2016-07-20 咚咚癌友圈/菠菜 咚咚癌友圈/菠菜

PD-L2是什么鬼?PD-1蛋白目前有俩同伙:一个是大家熟知的PD-L1,另一个叫做PD-L2,或许以后还有PD-L3等等,God才知道还有没有PD-L4。PD-1主要表达在免疫细胞上,PD-L1表达在免疫细胞细胞和肿瘤细胞上,而PD-L2主要表达在免疫细胞上。所以,相比于PD-L1,PD-L2的表达范围比较窄。PD-1蛋白和他的同伙PD-L1或者PD-L2结合可不是啥好事,会使T细胞变得无能,不

PD-L2是什么鬼?

PD-1蛋白目前有俩同伙:一个是大家熟知的PD-L1,另一个叫做PD-L2,或许以后还有PD-L3等等,God才知道还有没有PD-L4。

PD-1主要表达在免疫细胞上,PD-L1表达在免疫细胞细胞和肿瘤细胞上,而PD-L2主要表达在免疫细胞上。所以,相比于PD-L1,PD-L2的表达范围比较窄。

PD-1蛋白和他的同伙PD-L1或者PD-L2结合可不是啥好事,会使T细胞变得无能,不能有效的去杀伤肿瘤细胞,肿瘤就这么毫无顾忌的疯长起来(当然,并不是全部的肿瘤生长都和PD-1有关系)。不结合的时候一个T细胞或许可以杀死100个肿瘤细胞,结合之后可能只能杀死10个了,剩下的这90个就毫无顾忌的长长长。

具体的关系可以用下面这个图表示(这个图有点复杂,多看会):




简单解释下:T细胞上的PD-1可以跟肿瘤细胞上的PD-L1结合使T细胞无能,本来可以杀死100个肿瘤细胞的T细胞现在只能杀死10个了;同时,T细胞上的PD-1还可以跟肿瘤里面的其他免疫细胞(Treg细胞,MDSC细胞等)上的PD-L1或者PD-L2结合也会使T细胞变得无能。

所以,T细胞在肿瘤里面是很惨的,个头小不说,还被这么多其他的细胞欺负。除了PD-1这个通路,这些万恶的肿瘤细胞还会分泌各种乱七八糟的东西抢T细胞的食物,或者改变环境的酸碱度让T细胞不舒服,等等。

PD-1抗体和PD-L1抗体

目前,FDA已经批准了两个PD-1抗体和一个PD-L1抗体上市:默沙东的Keytruda、BMS的Opdivo和罗氏的Tecentriq。

Keytruda和Opdivo是PD-1抗体,可以跟T细胞上的PD-1蛋白结合,所以可以同时阻断PD-1和PD-L1以及PD-L2的结合;而PD-L1抗体只能和PD-L1结合,所以只能阻断PD-1跟PD-L1的结合,不能阻断PD-1跟PD-L2的结合,所以使用PD-L1抗体意味着T细胞还可能被PD-1/PD-L2通路抑制。

经常有患者问,我们该用哪种抗体治疗?其实,根据临床数据看,PD-L1抗体好像没有任何方面的数据优于PD-1抗体,价格还死贵。

还有患者问,PD-1抗体无效之后使用PD-L1抗体会有效吗?其实,菠菜也不知道,梅奥有报道过PD-1抗体Keytruda无效之后使用Opdivo可能有效,而PD-1抗体无效之后使用PD-L1抗体也可能有效?完全没有数据,完全不知道。

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    2017-05-27 wushaoling
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    2016-07-21 1ddc3463m23(暂无匿称)

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    2016-07-20 小青虫

    哈哈,与时俱进

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    2016-07-20 1dd8c52fm63(暂无匿称)

    学习啦!

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    2016-07-20 lovetcm

    涨姿势了

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    2016-07-20 doctorJiangchao

    好文章

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    2016-07-20 doctorJiangchao

    继续学习

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    2016-07-20 doctorJiangchao

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