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病人欠费医生还,这事不靠谱!

2016-04-12 Jeffrey MedSci原创

近日,《钱江晚报》报道一则“旧闻”:大年初一,宁波一家三甲医院的十几位产科医生连夜救治一名高危产妇,四个多小时手术做下来成功保住了大人和孩子;结果5天之后病人跑了,欠下了2万多的医药费。根据医院规定,欠费的20%要由科室承担,所以科室13位医生就只能平摊了4000多块钱的医药费。 高额欠费,应该由谁来承担? 据不完全统计,全国医院一年“三无”病人(无家属、无身份、无钱)欠费

近日,《钱江晚报》报道一则“旧闻”:大年初一,宁波一家三甲医院的十几位产科医生连夜救治一名高危产妇,四个多小时手术做下来成功保住了大人和孩子;结果5天之后病人跑了,欠下了2万多的医药费。根据医院规定,欠费的20%要由科室承担,所以科室13位医生就只能平摊了4000多块钱的医药费。

高额欠费,应该由谁来承担?

据不完全统计,全国医院一年“三无”病人(无家属、无身份、无钱)欠费约三四十亿元。医疗虽属于公益性事业,但医院不是慈善机构,不可能也没有能力承担如此高额的欠逃费。那这笔巨额的债务,到底由谁来承担?

对于“三无”人员欠费,国务院办公厅印发的《关于建立疾病应急救助制度的指导意见》文件要求,急危重伤病、需要急救但身份不明确或无力支付医疗费用的患者,其在医疗机构接受紧急救治后发生的急救医疗费用,将由专门设立的疾病应急救助基金予以补助。但在具体实施过程中阻力重重,并不尽如人愿。

对于无法追讨的欠费,有的医院则把部分压力转嫁给各科室的医生和护士,让医务人员承担起一部分追讨欠费的责任,甚至将追欠逃费的结果与医护人员的绩效工资相挂钩。

让医生分担医药费,看似理所当然,实则是黔驴之计。

医生该怎么办?

病人欠费是很多医务工作者都可能经历的有过之而无不及的尴尬事:救治的急救病人欠费了,家里人死活联系不上,结果去世之后子女却跑到医院来讹钱;有的医生看病人困难做了手术,结果欠下的费用要全科室承担……对于这种无力承担医药费或无故逃费的病人,医生该怎么办?

对于急危重病人、三无人员、绿色通道抢救(由急诊科直接送入手术室)这类病人,由行政总值签名后治疗,第二个工作日写欠费报告给医务科、欠费组,产生的欠费10%由科室负担,算入科室支出。然后医院的欠费组会去联系病人一切可以联系到的关系,想办法追钱。

对于有医保的病人,欠费的极少极少,比如在深圳劳务工基本都可以直接减免70-80%的费用,1000元可以当20000元用了,再说这类病人有工作,有家人,掏个三两千还是可以的。但是他们有个习惯,总是要等到护士去催费才交钱,总怕把钱放账号了会突然间就被医院吃掉了似的,例如术前就跟他说好,这个住院过程大概需要你交3000,OK,他每次都500,,500地交,然后及出现了护士天天来跟我汇报,某某床又欠费了,而病人的意见就是:护士天天催费;由此产生了不少矛盾。

关于逃费,也是最可恶的。欠费拖着不交,有可能也是的确没钱交,但是有一天他突然就跑了,如果跑帐之前我们已经上报的,欠的钱我们科室按30%负责,如果没有上报的100%自负。也感谢现在的电子系统,欠费组不备案就开不了锁,所以基本不会出现100%的事。至于怎么对付,首先欠费组介入;其次由于他是逃跑的,我会第一时间给派出所报警备案,然后尽量跟患者或家属打电话,告诉他如果这样一走了之,不排除警察抓人,也是威逼利诱,效果不佳,人家既然想跑了就不怕这些。反正每季度都会被扣点钱,但是也不至于很多,不想在这方面花太多心思。

还有一类病人也很难搞,那就是涉及第三方纠纷的;比如车祸伤,保险齐全的还好,可以有保险公司先垫付,保险不齐的,患方天天找车方要钱,然后来给医师诉苦,有时候还找交警要钱,然后警察也来找医师,还振振有词说z-f有“急救基金”,好吧,又是z-f。但是患方就是自己一毛不拔;就愿意看着自己人天天危在旦夕。其实,就算自己垫费,后期还是可以通过司法途径要回来的,自是大家好像都对这个途径信心不足。(以上内容摘自知乎,作者cantyxin)

国外怎么解决病人欠费问题?

病人欠费逃费并不是我国独有。实际上,美国的“逃费”现象可能比中国更严重,这是因为美国医疗费用之高举世闻名,以及医保制度和相关法律制度设计存在问题。有研究显示,无法支付医疗费用一直是美国个人破产的主要原因,超过60%的破产与医疗费用过高有关。

跟中国相比,加拿大没有太多病人逃费的现象,其中一个重要原因是加拿大有完善的公众医疗保险。根据统计,加拿大70%的医疗费用都由政府埋单,每一个加拿大永久居民和公民都有一张医疗卡,覆盖人们大部分的医疗费用,包括门诊和住院。同时,政府和慈善组织也提供了各种各样的援助服务。这些援助措施很大程度上能帮助那些有心无力的病人解决医疗费用困阻。

当然,加拿大也有一些有能力但不愿意缴费的病人。对于这些病人,加拿大的医院会依靠第三方的催收公司来“收数”。如果病人觉得收费不合理,是可以跟医院“讲数”的。从医院的角度看,与其花费更多资源来催收,不如直接给病人打个折算了。

另外,病人还可以申请分期付款来偿还费用。但如果病人就是打定主意不给钱了,医院可以把病人告上法庭,甚至申请病人破产。

梅斯医学小编:

病人欠费,最后吃亏的还是医院。虽然现在国家有相关制度保障“三无”病人就医,但资金来源仍有问题,具体实施还缺乏规范,根本上没法解决欠费问题。因此,还需进一步完善社会保障机制和社会救助体系。只有建立完善的社会医疗保障体系,让困难人群能病有所医,才能从根本上解决欠费问题。此外,还要完善城乡的基本公共卫生保障体系,让老百姓的常见病突发病能在基层解决,就不用都涌到大医院。

无力支付医药费,情有可原;但恶意欠费逃费,则让人心生厌恶。对于恶意欠费,应构建社会诚信体系,建立患者失信补救与惩戒制度,对于恶意欠费者,应由司法等关联部门替医院出面讨要,并依法处理“耍赖”行为,让恶意欠逃费人员在诚信体系下寸步难行。

最希望你活下来的是医生。我们不必为相互的不信任付出高昂的代价,这样得不偿失。医生可以救治肉体,但可能没法救治灵魂。我们期待制度的完善,但也期待每一位患者良知的觉醒。只有彼此信任,社会才能充满爱。

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    这样的事真的有,我在科室的时候就遇到过

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    2016-04-14 李继凯

    为什么呢

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    2016-04-14 李继凯

    政府去哪儿了

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    2016-04-14 hekzn

    学习了 长知识

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    2016-04-13 南塘隐9d53fba6

    我也没办法

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    2016-04-12 I come

    怎么办,问谁呢?

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