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在职医生能不能开诊所,答案终于找到了!

2017-12-24 吴金华 基层医师公社

在职医生到底可不可以开诊所,答案在这里!

为了推动医生自由执业,有关部门出台了各种措施。从一开始的医师多点执业,到现在流行的医师执业注册区域化。然而效果并不明显,于是,今年又放了一个大招,新修订的医疗机构管理条例,明文规定了不限制在职医生开办医疗机构。

看起来这是促进医生自由执业的一个大杀器,估计有些在职医生跃跃欲试了,可是,真的一旦自己兼职开诊所估计还是很不容易的!

从政策上开:在职医生可不可以开诊所?

我们知道,今年,国家卫计委修订了《医疗机构管理条例实施细则》(简称《实施细则》),并于4月1日起实施。

新修订的《实施细则》删除了第十二条第一款第三项“医疗机构在职、因病退职或者停薪留职的医务人员不得申请设置医疗机构”的内容。

修改后,《实施细则》关于医疗机构设置申请人的条件,将重点围绕医疗质量和安全,注重审查申办者的办医条件和资质。

单从《实施细则》上,我们可以看到国家是不限制在职医生开办诊所的,但虽然上层放开了口子,但地方在实施的时候压力也不小,如果大家都去开诊所了,那么公立医院是否能够维持正常运营呢;另一方面,如何界定本单位工作量?如何制定这些人的待遇?这些都没有指导方案。

所以,地方在此政策的落实上,并不顺畅,很多在职的医生朋友到当地卫计局咨询是否可以开办诊所时,也吃了闭门羹。

总之,距离全国各地大范围放开医生、让大家可以自由执业,还有一段路要走。

从实际情况上看:在职医生是否可开办诊所?

一、在职医生会面临着所在医院的压力

当前,在职医生与医院的关系,其实是捆绑在一起。一名医生要成长为独挡一面的资深医师,除了依靠自身的不懈努力之外,离不开所在医院的大力培养。

医院一般会对医生安排进入合适的团队、有适宜的上级医生指导、必要时的进修学习等等。经过比较长的年限才慢慢地成熟起来。

原本,医院与医生不存在利益冲突的。但是你要办诊所,矛盾就来了。如果你是直接离职,就像于莺一样肯定没有问题;如果作为在职医生你要去办诊所,肯定会面临着所在医院不小的压力:

一个是面临医院和医生之间的利益冲突。

如果你是在职办诊所,就会面对所在医院和你的诊所之间的利益问题。

从医院的角度来看:你要开诊所,肯定会把一些病人带走,这涉及到医院利益受损,医院肯定不会答应;你要开诊所又不离职,医院方面认为你是需要医院的各种保障和福利待遇,但是你的诊所利益医院又不能分享,医院肯定不能无动于衷。这时候医院肯定会有所动作。

依照2014年“卫生部关于医师多点执业有关问题的通知”中规定“医师在第一执业地点医疗机构的工作时间和工作量未达到全职医师要求的,不能领取全职薪酬”。

这个工作量和工作时间界定权限完全在医院一方,医院以此来制约你,你的诊所估计也得够呛;如果你的诊所出现纠纷事故,病人肯定会找到你,医院肯定不会为你出面解决,但是医院会以影响医院的声誉为由给你很大的压力!

还有一个是医院团队和医生之间的利益问题。

你在医院上班,一定会处在一个科室、一个团队。在团队中工作肯定会有分工不同,有各种排班(门诊班、住院班、二线班、总值班等等之类)。

你要开诊所,这些班你总不能不承担吧!你要求换班,短期内可以和同事换,长期肯定不行;你要求不值班,但是你自己开诊所挣钱去了,其他人要多干活,一定行不通。

有时候并不是钱的问题,而是在团队中出现这种情况会影响团队的正常运作。这样一来医院团队出现矛盾,管理层肯定不会无动于衷的。到时候,你还能在医院好好上班么?

二、诊所面临着运行的压力

好了,即便是你能处理好来自医院和你的团队方面的关系,顺利开办诊所。这时候,诊所面临的运行压力也是不小:

一是要学会与有关部门打交道。虽说现在政府承诺“办证最多跑一次”。办证简单了,可是相关监管却强化了。涉药的要与食品药品监督管理局打交道,一年不少于一次的上门检查;开业要与工商打交道;医疗方面的要与卫生监督机构打交道;涉税的与税务局方面打交道等等。

二是要学会和有关企业合作。药品要去和药企合作、设备要和设备供应商打交道、医疗垃圾要与专业回收公司合作、医疗风险要与保险公司签订合同等。

三是诊所运行自行负责。医疗安全、院感、传染病防控、如果要为医保病人服务的话,还得学习诊所控费,这可和医院控费大不一样。原来这些在医院都有专门的科室和人员负责处理,开诊所,这些都只能自己解决了。压力大不大,只有试过才知道!

最重要的是你有没有足够精力来维持诊所的正常运作。要知道,你不是离职的,你是在职医生,医院一大摊子的事情你还得干。这样下来,对诊所的运行是非常不利的。如果有足够的精力,你还有一个非常关键的问题。

三、如何应对诊所面临着生存的压力

开诊所不是去做慈善,一定是要盈利的。这时候就会有一个非常重要的问题:你的病源在哪里?如何去找你的病人,这可不是医院,只要门开着病人自然会来!如果打着医院的牌子往自家诊所“输送”患者、利用多点执业搞利益输送等等。

这些肯定会受到有关医院的阻止的。这时候,你有个人品牌效应,病人自然会源源不断;如果病人稀少,呵呵,你的诊所估计关门大吉也不远了!

这样看来,在职医生开诊所并不是一件容易的事情,你们说呢?

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    开啥.体制每天都在变

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    2017-12-25 飛歌

    厉害了我的哥

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    2017-12-25 忠诚向上

    好好学习.天天向上

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    2017-12-25 1dd8c52fm63(暂无匿称)

    了解了解.继续关注

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    2017-12-25 yjs木玉

    好好好好好好好好

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