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零加成出事了!湖南大医院连续三月停付药款

2016-09-17 陈可 “看医界”微信号

药品零差价了医院会遭受损失吗?医院又会怎么应对呢?前段时间据媒体爆料湖南大医院要求药品商业公司统一扣点10%,不接受扣点的品种,医院将予以停用或替换。那么现在情况怎么样了呢?据获悉,湖南省商务厅近日给湖南省医改办发函,称湖南几家大医院以“医院药品运营成本和药事管理费用无处体现” 为由,从六月份开始,已经连续三个月停止支付药品货款。并称此举将严重影响药品流通企业备货和对医院的药品供应,甚至引发严重的

药品零差价了医院会遭受损失吗?医院又会怎么应对呢?前段时间据媒体爆料湖南大医院要求药品商业公司统一扣点10%,不接受扣点的品种,医院将予以停用或替换。


那么现在情况怎么样了呢?据获悉,湖南省商务厅近日给湖南省医改办发函,称湖南几家大医院以“医院药品运营成本和药事管理费用无处体现” 为由,从六月份开始,已经连续三个月停止支付药品货款。


并称此举将严重影响药品流通企业备货和对医院的药品供应,甚至引发严重的社会问题。




如此戏剧化的冲突,算得上这是药品零加成改革以来最大的尴尬了。


公开资料显示,早在2015年初,湖南就已经全面取消了县级公立医院药品加成, 2015年底,长沙市城区首批20家部省市属大型公立医院也启动了医药价格改革,实行药品零差率销售。


今年4月,湖南省发布了《湖南省深化医药卫生体制综合改革试点方案》,《方案》提出,在县级公立医院全面取消药品加成的基础上,到2016年底所有城市公立医院实行药品零差率销售。通过调整医疗服务价格、加大政府投入、改革支付方式、降低医院运行成本等,建立科学合理的补偿机制。


事实上,不仅仅是在湖南,在北京、浙江、江苏等多个省市,药品零加成改革都如火如荼地推行开来。种种迹象表明,新一轮医改最大的动作之一就是全面推行药品零加成改革。


取消医院15%的药品加成,降低检查检验等收费价格,提高劳务性服务价格是这一改革的基本套路。取消后补偿机制是怎么样的呢?


以湖南为例,公立医院取消之后的加成费用,通过提高手术费等其他医药服务价格来进行补足,大概达到药品加成的80%,剩余部分由政府补贴10%,另外10%由医院降低成本等措施来解决。


据了解,这样的措施并不是湖南的原创,而几乎是标配。医院的10%说好听了叫“由医院降低成本等措施来解决”,更直白一点说,实际上就是医院认亏10%。从全国来看,药品零加成改革普遍让医院“内部消化”5%到10%因改革带来的损失。


10%什么概念?拿郑大一附院打个比方,2015年医院全年营收85亿,如果搞零加成,按照大医院一般40%左右的药占比来算,取消药品加成后,医疗服务价格调整只补偿4个亿,政府只补贴5000万,最后医院每年会因此减少超过5000万收入。


在全国来说,年收入在几十亿的大医院不在少数,也就意味着只要推了零加成,损失基本上都是千万级别。令人费解的是,目前全国推行的药品零加成改革,几乎没有能够真正通过提高劳务性服务价格来实现完全平移的。


为啥不直接通过提高劳务性服务价格来实现呢?还非要政府补贴一部分,医院消化一部分呢?


据了解,其中一个重要因素,就是有关部门担心群众接受不了。因为担心在长期以药养医的医疗卫生体制下,群众已经习惯了极低的劳务性服务价格,突然提高太多很难接受。另外,很多地方提高的部分,医保并没有能够跟进报销,对于一部分主要接受劳务性医疗服务的患者,等于纯粹的涨价行为,着实很难接受。因此重庆还闹出了血透患者的群体性事件。


但问题是,让大医院白白损失数千万,能愿意吗?当然不愿意。于是私底下的“二次议价”就暗流涌动开来。


以上述湖南某大医院为例,就开出了10%扣点的要求,商业公司和医院于是就闹出了上述事件。


对此,一位业内人士表示,目前试图以药品零差价来实现取消以药养医的改革最大的困境在于,附加在药品上的利益并不是仅仅医院层面的15%,有的药品利益输送甚至高达60%--70%。而简单地取消15%的医院加成,并没有真正撼动整个利益链条,没有得到完全补偿的大医院能够很轻松地将损失要回来,也基本没有改变医生、医院不能靠技术而主要靠卖药生存的现状。


一位医生网友则表示,一切不真正尊重医生劳动价值的医改都是耍流氓,希望医改能够真正扭转畸形的医疗服务价格体系,让医生能够靠合理的阳光收入过上有尊严的生活。

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    2016-09-27 童小孩

    学习了,很受益,谢谢分享,继续关注中!

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    2016-09-19 Zybmyth

    不掏钱 怎么改都挂羊头,卖烂肉

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    2016-09-18 wl1122050

    让那些给药品定价的人承担20%.

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    2016-09-18 1e1197a8m18(暂无匿称)

    拍脑门的医改

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    一切不尊重医师的劳动价值的医改都是耍流氓!

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    2016-09-18 医张生

    都要求医疗免费服务。钱从哪里来?政府不愿意出钱怎么样改都是耍流氓。

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    2016-09-18 Mr.Li先生

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    2016-09-18 医路开来

    谢谢分享,,,

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